Ray Gillen and Badlands: When Rock Bands Split Up In Front Of An Audience

Ray Gillen (right) on the cover of Badlands' debut album

Ray Gillen (right) on the cover of Badlands’ debut album

Twenty years ago today rock lost one of its finest singers: Ray Gillen.

In his all too short career Gillen had the distinction of recording an album with Black Sabbath – only for his vocals to be wiped and replaced by someone else’s, * and to sing with musical collective Phenomena II. In 1988 he teamed up with someone else who had been jettisoned from a Sabbath-related situation, guitarist Jake E Lee, who had left Ozzy’s band. With a desire to write their own material, avoid record company interference and outside writers, and emulate their heroes of Led Zeppelin and Humble Pie, they formed Badlands.

The 1989 debut album was a critical success and was followed by “Voodoo Highway“. However, during the making of Voodoo Highway Lee and Gillen began to disagree over songwriting and the direction the band was taking. The band were dropped by Atlantic Records. Their frustrations culminated in an interview given by Jake E Lee in Kerrang! Magazine in 1991 just before a UK tour, when Lee announced Gillan had been fired and accused his band mate of going behind his back to the record company and telling them he had written some hit songs that the rest of the band wouldn’t record.

The Jake E Lee article in Kerrang!

The Jake E Lee article in Kerrang!

Said Lee “It just sounded like Whitesnake”. Warming to his task, Lee then accused Gillen of cancelling a show “because he had a boil on his neck”. **

I was there on the night that Badlands very publicly split up on the first London date of their UK tour and vented their frustrations at each other. Yet, far from being a debacle, it was one of the greatest gigs I ever witnessed.

  • In the blue corner was “the band”: guitarist Jake E Lee, bassist Greg Chaisson, and drummer Jeff Martin.
  • In the red corner: vocalist Ray Gillen.

In the bar before the show there was much chatter about what, exactly, we were about to see. In that week’s Kerrang! Magazine, which I had picked up and read only that day Badlands had announced that Ray Gillen had been fired. The UK shows would continue, however, with Gillen being replaced by a singer called Debby Holiday, who as well as being completely unknown also had the unusual distinction in heavy rock of being both female and of ethnic origin. This was pretty extraordinary stuff.

After the initial disappointment of not seeing Ray Gillen, I had begun to look forward to seeing how Holiday’s “cross between Baby Jean (Mothers Finest ***) and Steve Marriott” vocals would blend with Badlands’ brand of Led Zep-tinged rock. However, upon arrival at the Astoria it became apparent that Gillen would, after all, be appearing. I was almost disappointed. Had they reconciled? After some pretty harsh words in Kerrang! it seemed unlikely.

All became clear when the band took the stage. On came Lee, Chaisson and Martin. Then a pause. Then on came Gillen.

Jake E Lee Ray Gillen Badlands Kerrang

How Kerrang! reviewed the show..

Gillen looked at Lee. Lee looked at Gillen. It was like a Sergio Leone film. You could have chilled a barrel of beer just with those stares. Mind you, bearing in mind this was at The Astoria, that would have been no bad thing. **** They played three or four songs. It was pretty good, but there was tension in the air. It was fascinating. I was right at the front, standing before bass player Chaisson.

Gillen could hold back no more. Turning to the crowd, he walked to the right of the stage (his left) in the wings and pulled out a copy of the offending Kerrang! Magazine. “I just have something to get off my chest” he began, describing Lee’s interview as “BS”, as Lee looked on incredulously and with a smile on his face. (Off microphone Lee just shook his head and said “It’s all true!”) You could see that the two factions – Gillen vs the rest of the band – had irreconcilably fallen out with each other. I never thought at the time they would actually trade blows there onstage, but looking back, it was a pretty provocative thing to do to call your guitarist a liar in front of a crowd.

But rather than let the whole thing just fizzle out, with everything now out in the open and with nothing left to say to each other, Gillen and Lee then threw themselves into playing up an absolute storm. It was remarkable: as if neither wanted to be the one that threw in the towel. It was as though they realised this was the last hurrah and had decided to go out with a bang. *****

Lee played like a man possessed, Gillen sang brilliantly. Towards the end of the set they played a cover of Humble Pie’s “Four Day Creep”. Gillan sang the first verse, and then held out the microphone to the be-hatted, cowboy boot-wearing Chaisson, who gleefully belted out the next verse whilst he played his thumping bass. I think that was the first time Gillen had connected with the rest of the band, just holding his microphone in front of Chaisson, and they were smiling as he did it, but it was as though he had crossed an invisible divide. It was magic.

By this time the crowd (including me) were chanting, “Don’t Split Up! Don’t Split Up! Don’t Split Up!” over and over. Surely a band that could produce something so great still had some unfinished business, musically speaking? Surely there was still hope? If ever I believed in the redemptive powers of rock n roll it was right then, at The Astoria, as a band fell apart in front of my eyes. The same thing that had torn them apart – their belief in their music and their determination to do it their way – also bonded them together. It was the one thing they all passionately believed in.

I had never seen a band put so much into a show and I still never have…

They did split up, of course. Too much had already been said. Gillen articulately responded to each of Lee’s accusations in turn in the following week’s Kerrang! and, aside from the posthumously released album “Dusk”, that was that.

Ray Gillen Badlands Kerrang

Sadly, just two years later, Gillen died of HIV-related complications on 1st December 1993. He had an excellent voice and genuine charisma. I liked everything I heard him on – from Badlands, Phenomena, to Sabbath (eventually) and even his brief cameo on the Savatage album “Hall of the Mountain King”. It is a great shame we didn’t get to hear more of that special voice.

Record #25 : Badlands – Walking Attitude

* Gillen joined Sabbath in 1986 mid-tour when Glenn Hughes left the band after a fight. A year later, for various reasons he was replaced by Tony Martin, whose vocals then appeared on the album “Eternal Idol”. Gillen’s restored vocal finally surfaced on the 2010 deluxe version.

** Gillen appeared in the next issue of Kerrang! to give his version of events around boil-gate, which he said was actually “a cyst”. He insisted he had written good songs (“I didn’t say they were hits”) but the band didn’t want to work on them, believing they already had enough good songs. Gillen then concluded Lee was “lazy” and someone “who couldn’t wear Eddie Van Halen’s f- socks”, which possibly suggests Lee has over-sized, oddly shaped feet.

*** Coincidentally, Mothers Finest supported Badlands on that UK tour

**** The Astoria wasn’t known for the quality of its refreshments. Warm Red Stripe lager if memory serves.

***** it wasn’t – they then played further UK dates.

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44 replies

  1. It’s funny to see that Ray Gillen is credited as Ray Gillian for his background vocals on ‘Strange Wings’ on Savatage’s ‘Hall Of The Mountain King’.


    • Is that right? Sadly my copy is lost in the midsts of time. Great record though.


      • Gotta agree Bro, I remember this show vividly, you never forget a show like this. I’d not lomg joined the Australian SAS, and had my first trip to the UK as part of the regiment, to train with the British Fellas. About a half dozen of us that were big Badlands fans got tickets to the show. 3 or 4 songs in, nothin special, and I was thinkin:”Well shit, they’ve busted up, Lee and Gillan hate each others guts, I guess ya can’t expect much”

        Then suddenly Gillan grabs that copy of Kerrang!, basically says what Lee says was bullshit, my Mates and I are lookin at each other goin:”Jesus Christ”, and probably waitin for a punch up to break out on stage or whatever. But from that point of, somethin happened, a change came over the whole band, and they were off. It was almost like a pressure valve had been released, and stuff was out in the open suddenly. From that point on, the show was game on, and the band went hell for leather. Bein in a concert hall full of people screaming:”Don’t split up, don’t split up”, during one of the most unbelieable shows you’ve ever seen, is really hard to describe. It’s still gotta be one of the most unreal shows I’ve ever been to, it really is. The kinda thing you’d find hard to believe if somebody told you about it and you never saw it yourself

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      • Hey, thanks Johann. Good to hear from someone who was also there. An amazing night.


      • Yup, it was some show wasn’t it mate. It was so surreal watchin on as Gillan held the Karrang mag up, and said what he said, it was hard to believe you were actually witnessing that. What happned that night, will stay with you ever if you saw it. Savatage’s Hall Of The Mountain King is so underrated, it’s bloody criminal I reckon

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    • Wow-I finally stumbled across anything about Badlands! I often check ITunes to see if either of their first two albums are out there yet~(I mean,Mahogany Rush’s first 3 just became available) I just don’t understand why Warner Brothers or their subsidiaries don’t release them! Is it because they wanted to exercise artistic freedom or because of the AIDS stigma folks? I myself am a singer and cut my teeth on Robert Plant,David Coverdale,and Deep Purple’s Ian Gillan (no relation) but Dag,he had the feel,the range,the soul,and vocal timbre that HANDS DOWN no one else could ever reproduce which makes him the Best in my book and they never got the musical Kudos or AirPlay that they deserved-Does anybody Agree

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  2. I had no idea Ray died 20 years ago today. And I published my Badlands review today out of sheer coincidence. I’ll add a RIP note to the review!

    Sounds like a memorable show to say the least. Something historic, at least. I’ve always wondered if the Dusk album is any good, as I’ve never heard it.

    I’m glad you mentioned Savatage. His cameo on “Strange Wings” made it an INSTANT favourite with me, and I still look forward to his distinct howl at the end!

    I think Gillen also sand lead on a George Lynch solo album, a song called “Flesh & Blood”. Ironically Glenn Hughes sang lead on the same Lynch solo abum.

    I have one other Gillen project here, a 3 CD set called Sun Red Sun which had some people from Alice in Chains and Rainbow and Gillan. I haven’t played it in 10 years, but my impressions weren’t really anything special.


  3. I think the Savatage connection was producer/manager Paul O’Neill. He was managing both bands and produced both albums.


  4. Awesome account of the facts. Cool to read your account of facts as opposed to a writer from a mag!
    Well done !!!


  5. And I thought Queensyche were doing well with Geoff Tate spitting on this fellow bandmates on stage and telling the crowd the sucked before splitting up!


  6. I was at that gig too, although only to see Mother’s Finest. After seeing Joyce sing the roof off I left long before Badlands came on stage. Never was a fan.


  7. What a great gig to have been at… in all sorts of ways! This is a really outstanding post. Kudos!


  8. I was at the concert in the Fabrik in Hamburg, 1986 or so, when Marty Willson-Piper left the band (not forever, it turned out later) just before the gig. The other three came out, said what happened, said that anyone who left before the show would get their money back, then played the gig as a three-piece.

    Not a split up, but another gig with a missing member: A few weeks ago I saw a local Rainbow cover band but the keyboard player couldn’t show up because his wife was in the hospital. Otherwise, a great gig, faithful interpretation of the originals, but with no keyboard!


  9. Dude, that was really intense stuff. Seriously, I got chills reading your words. Oh man, I’m still shook up, you got to see a real one of a kind piece of rock’n roll history!!!


  10. Got to see Mothers Finest in the late 70’s


  11. I had so many life changes listening to them back in the day , This band is a missed capsule of time. Singer died of aids I found out later in looking them up as well his I have my own stuff. What a great band and blink its finished.

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  12. I had the pleasure of chatting with every member of Badlands for an hour at different times between 1991 and 1992. Jake, Ray, Greg and Jeff.
    They all took the time to talk about music and life with a fellow musician/guitarist.
    None of them came across as a “RockStar”. They all treated me as an equal, even though they had recorded some of my favorite music and weren’t trying to sound like the waste of recording studio time (grunge) that had swiftly knocked all the hair bands off their pedestal. They truly stuck to their guns and were making great music on their terms. (BTW, I love Dusk and think it is as good as Badlands and Voodoo Highway. “The Fire Lasts Forever” is my favorite on Dusk)

    I was sad to hear of Ray’s passing. Nobody sang like him. The man had soul!!
    I enjoyed the article about “Badlands Last Stand”. I could picture the scene and have had some tense moments onstage with band members that were being “difficult”, so I know what that must have been like. I wish all the surviving members of Badlands success in making great music.
    I know Jake fell off the map for a long time, but is making music again. Haven’t heard much from Greg and Jeff, though.
    Badlands was a band that either you got it, or you didn’t, and if you didn’t, well, you really missed out. They are one of the only bands from that era that I still enjoy listening to. Their music stands the test of time. I’m trying to think of the last time I got excited about a new album coming out.
    Honestly, not much after Voodoo Highway. Maybe Extreme’s 3 sides to every story. Nuno sure can punish a fretboard!!
    Anyway, thanks for letting me share my memories. Listening to Badlands takes me right back to 1989-1993 every time. Isn’t time travel great?

    BTW, I did learn early on that if you want to have a meaningful conversation with a musician you admire, don’t ask them for an autograph!! You suddenly become “just a fan”. That’s how I got to have 4 hours of conversation with Badlands, and those memories are worth way more than their name scribbled on a bar napkin…
    David “b3” ingram

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  13. Interesting to have been involved in something as comical and tragic at the same time. I wish we had stayed together!

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  14. This is fantastic work. Well done!

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  15. Any idea what reason Iommi had for extracting Ray?


    • I don’t know for sure, but Black Sabbath were in a state of flux at the time (Seventh Star was just going to be an Iommi solo album) and things just petered out. Gillen had a chance to join John Sykes on the Blue Murder Project (albeit unsuccessful- Sykes ended up singing vocals on that album himself). The Phenomena album then followed…


  16. I was at that gig at The Astoria in London. They were at loggerheads but it made for a great performance.
    Due the Kerrang article we were expecting a black woman to come on a sing! I was so pleased to see Ray come running on stage!
    He later ripped up that copy of Kerrang! 🙂

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  17. I was there and it was actually appeared to be…
    In the blue corner: guitarist Jake E Lee, and bassist Greg Chaisson.
    In the red corner: vocalist Ray Gillen and drummer Jeff Martin.


  18. I stumble across this amazing article every few years and I still love to read it. I still miss Badlands. I loved their sound, and Jake’s playing was in absolute top form at that time. I went to see them with Tesla and Great White when the first album came out. Jake was wearing a leg brace and still moved around while he played. I was a huge fan and they didn’t disappoint. I really hope they re-release some day, as I lost my cassette of the first album long ago (lol)

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